On the Radio, Trump Has a Reunion (of Sorts) With Michael Cohen
New York Times · LC · trust 37/100
President Trump’s former personal lawyer tried to revisit the past in a radio interview. But this was not exactly a stroll down memory lane.
Listen · 4:38 min Share full article Michael Cohen in front of promotional material for his new radio show, which is meant to look like him in the Oval Office, during a news conference in New York last month. Credit... Seth Wenig/Associated Press By Shawn McCreesh
“Hello, Michael,” the voice on the other end of the phone answered flatly. “How are you, Michael.”
The long, torrid and vexatious relationship between President Trump and Mr. Cohen took its latest turn on Thursday, after the president agreed to do a radio show hosted by his onetime lawyer turned nemesis turned … whatever you call this.
Quick recap: Mr. Cohen made a living for years as a kind of henchman for Mr. Trump and then flipped on him. “Time and time again,” Mr. Cohen told a judge in 2018, “I felt it was my duty to cover up his dirty deeds rather than to listen to my own inner voice and my moral compass.” By 2024, he was the star witness at Mr. Trump’s criminal trial in New York State court, testifying about hush money paid to a porn star.
Mr. Trump, for his part, called Mr. Cohen a “liar” and a “rat.” But the president has a well-documented tendency of allowing people who’ve dissed him — Elon Musk, Megyn Kelly, Stephen K. Bannon — back into his orbit. What’s one more?
Mr. Cohen tried right at the top of their conversation to “go back to 2016,” as he put it.
“You and I have obviously traveled a pretty rocky road together,” he said. “You remember? Do you remember, sir, when I went on CNN with Brianna Keilar, and she told me that you were underwater in the polls, and I responded with those famous two words: Says who? Which became some worldwide meme.”
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